The Quantum Economy Podcast

Entanglement can't send a message faster than light. Stephanie Wehner, director of Europe's Quantum Internet Alliance, says it allows something stranger: two parties can coordinate faster than light without communicating at all. And she says secure communication alone is not the reason to build a quantum internet. Anders Indset sits down with Stephanie Wehner, professor at QuTech in Delft and director of the Quantum Internet Alliance, to ask what a quantum internet is and isn't, which hardware can carry it, when it will reach 500 kilometers, and why Europe, at the forefront today, could still lose the race. In this conversation, they explore: • Why a quantum internet doesn't need a quantum computer • Why networking needs long-lived qubits and an optical interface, and which hardware has both • NV centers vs trapped ions, and why only about 3% of an NV center's photons end up in the fiber • Why entanglement allows faster-than-light coordination but not faster-than-light communication • Whether robots, or…

Q-Day was supposed to be 2035. Arm co-founder Hermann Hauser says it is now 2029 because the qubits needed to break RSA-2048 have fallen from a million to as few as 10,000, according to recent research from Google and Oratomic. If he is right, RSA-2048, which still protects much of the internet, has about three years left. Hauser co-founded Acorn Computers, where two engineers designed Arm's processor on almost no budget, and he now invests across several quantum modalities. Anders Indset sits down with Hermann Hauser, co-founder of Acorn Computers and Amadeus Capital Partners, at the Austrian Embassy in London to ask what the Arm story teaches about quantum, why Europe produces startups but loses them at scale, and how far computing, biology and physics can go before they run into the question of what a human being is. In this conversation, they explore: Why Q-Day moved from 2035 to 2029, and how the qubit estimate dropped from a million to 10,000-26,000 How two engineers with no money built the Arm…

Most quantum computers being built today chase more qubits and better error correction. Marta Estarellas's company Qilimanjaro went the other way: an analog system that lets physics do the computation, unlocked with fluxonium qubits that hold record coherence times. The bet is that the future of supercomputing is not one machine but a multimodality of digital, analog, and classical systems working together. Anders Indset sits down with Marta Estarellas, CEO of Qilimanjaro Quantum Tech, the Barcelona full-stack quantum company behind Europe's first analog quantum computer installed at the Barcelona Supercomputing Center, to ask what quantum computing looks like when you stop treating the gate-based machine as the only future. In this conversation, they explore: Why analog quantum computing lets you skip gate decomposition and let the physics compute directly How adiabatic quantum computing and gate-based quantum computing are formally equivalent, but analog opens a different execution path The fluxonium qubit…

How much do we really understand about life? In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Dr. Nirosha Murugan, Canada Research Chair in Tissue Biophysics, founder of Helioflux. In her research, she investigates the physical principles that underlie living systems. In this conversation, they explore: Why biology may need to move beyond a purely biochemical understanding of life How energy and information shape living systems Whether consciousness emerges from the brain or from more fundamental physical processes What slime mold can teach us about intelligence, AI, and distributed cognition How quantum biology could transform medicine and our understanding of health Whether reality itself could be a simulation, and what that would mean for free will Why philosophy is becoming increasingly important as science pushes the boundaries of life, intelligence, and longevity This is a conversation about quantum biology, consciousness, artificial intelligence, regenerative medicine, and one…

What if some of the most important questions in physics are still waiting to be properly asked? In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Chiara Marletto, physicist at the University of Oxford and co-developer of Constructor Theory alongside David Deutsch. Constructor Theory is one of the most ambitious new frameworks in fundamental physics today, going beneath the laws of motion to ask a deeper question: what is possible, what is impossible and why. In this conversation, they explore: What Constructor Theory is and how it offers a new way to think about physical reality, from information and thermodynamics to the physics of life and the mind Why time may be more fundamental and more difficult to explain than current physical theories suggest Why physics is not only a technical discipline, but also a deeply creative act of imagination and explanation Why both the education system and the funding system increasingly struggle with forms of knowledge creation that cannot easily…

The quantum computing race is obsessed with one number: qubit count. But what if that’s simply not the right metric? In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Thomas Luschmann, Co-Founder and COO of Peak Quantum — a Munich-based deep-tech startup that embeds error protection directly into the hardware architecture, rather than relying on costly error correction after the fact. In this conversation, they explore: Why more qubits alone will never deliver industrially useful quantum computing and what "better qubits" actually means How Peak Quantum's hardware-intrinsic approach compares to cat qubits, fluxonium, and topological qubits What it really takes to turn world-class university research into a fundable deep-tech company Whether Europe can build a sovereign quantum future or whether economic reality will force its best startups to look elsewhere What it means to build technology that may already be beyond our full understanding and what that tells us about where humanity is headed Thomas also shares…

What if quantum computing allowed us to engineer nature at the atomic level? In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Professor Michelle Simmons, Founder & CEO of Silicon Quantum Computing and one of the world’s leading quantum materials scientists. For over 25 years, Simmons has pioneered a new approach to quantum computing, building systems atom by atom in silicon. This goes beyond faster computation. It opens the possibility to understand, simulate, and ultimately engineer nature itself. In this conversation, we explore: What it means to engineer nature at the atomic scale The race to build a fault-tolerant quantum computer Why silicon-based, atom-level qubits could unlock scalability How quantum systems allow us to simulate and recreate materials (“quantum twins”) The convergence of quantum computing and AI The philosophical implications: Are we moving from observing nature to designing it? Michelle shares insights into her company’s roadmap toward a million-qubit quantum…

Europe is often seen as strong in science but weak in execution. In quantum technology, this is starting to change. In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Prof. Tommaso Calarco, Director at Forschungszentrum Jülich and one of the key figures behind Europe’s Quantum Flagship. They discuss the current state of quantum technology in Europe, the global race with the US and China, and how Europe is moving from research into real-world deployment. Quantum systems are being deployed and tested in public infrastructure, supercomputing platforms, and communication networks across Europe. This episode covers: The future of quantum computing and quantum infrastructure in Europe Europe’s role in the global quantum technology race The challenge of venture capital, scale-up funding, and deep tech investment Different approaches to quantum computing, including neutral atoms, semiconductors, and NV centers How quantum communication infrastructure is being developed Why quantum can…

Most of the attention in quantum goes to computing. But there is another layer and it’s already being built. Quantum networking is already being tested on real telecom infrastructure from New York to Deutsche Telekom’s network in Berlin. In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Noel Goddard, CEO of Qunnect, about how quantum is being built, tested, and run in real infrastructure. They discuss what quantum networks actually are, how they differ from today’s internet, and why security is emerging as the first practical use case. The conversation also explores the technical challenges of building quantum infrastructure, the realities behind the hype, and what it takes to turn deep-tech research into deployable hardware. Looking ahead, Noel outlines a longer-term vision: connecting quantum computers, sensors, and data centers — and building the foundation for a new layer of the internet. A grounded and forward-looking conversation on quantum, infrastructure, and the future of…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Zeynep Korutürk, co-founder of Firgun Ventures and former Executive Director at Goldman Sachs, about the emerging investment landscape around quantum technologies. Zeynep shares her perspective on how the quantum ecosystem has evolved over the past decade – from a field with only a few dozen startups to a rapidly expanding global industry with hundreds of companies. The conversation explores why the biggest bottleneck today may not be scientific progress, but capital: many promising quantum startups struggle to secure the Series A and Series B funding needed to scale. Together, they discuss what it takes to invest in quantum technologies, how venture capital differs in a field rooted in physics rather than software, and why talent, engineering execution, and long-term vision are critical for identifying the future leaders of the industry. The discussion also touches on geopolitics, the global race between the US, Europe, and China, the…

Time feels obvious to us. It flows from the past to the present and into the future. But in modern physics, time is anything but simple. In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with theoretical physicist Dr. Sravan Kumar about one of the deepest mysteries in physics: the nature of time, black holes, and whether information can truly disappear from the universe. Dr. Kumar’s recent work revisits Einstein–Rosen bridges – structures often associated with wormholes – and proposes a new interpretation of how spacetime, quantum mechanics, and gravity might be connected. The conversation explores questions such as whether the universe could contain two arrows of time, how the black hole information paradox might be resolved, and what these ideas could mean for the future of physics. Dr. Sravan Kumar is a theoretical physicist whose research focuses on quantum gravity, black holes, and the early universe. His work explores how quantum mechanics and gravity may ultimately be unified to…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Dr. Pavel Hrmo, CEO and co-founder of ZuriQ — a Swiss quantum computing startup spun out of ETH Zürich. ZuriQ is taking a radically different approach to one of quantum computing’s biggest challenges: scalability. Instead of relying on traditional one-dimensional ion chains, Dr. Hrmo and his team are developing a reconfigurable two-dimensional ion array using Penning trap architecture — a breakthrough that could unlock a new path toward large-scale, practical quantum systems. Together, Anders and Pavel explore whether trapped-ion systems could become the foundation of scalable quantum computing, how ZuriQ’s architecture differs from players like IonQ and Quantinuum, and how Europe positions itself in the global quantum race. They also dive into deeper questions: When will quantum computing create real economic impact? How will AI and quantum computing converge? Will AI accelerate quantum breakthroughs — or will quantum redefine AI?…

What does it really take to make quantum computers work at scale? Anders Indset hosts Steve Brierley, founder & CEO of Riverlane, to unpack fault-tolerant quantum computing's potential to revolutionize chemistry, materials science, and climate tech. Discover why qubits are so fragile, how 25 years of error rate improvements still fall short, and the trillion-operation leap needed for real-world impact. Steve reveals Riverlane's real-time error correction stack—accelerating hardware roadmaps by 3-5 years across superconducting, trapped ions, neutral atoms, silicon spins, and NV centers. Key insights: Crossing the QEC threshold: From 1,000 to billions of error-free operations Quantum + AI/HPC: Hybrid workflows for next-gen supercomputing First applications: Quantum chemistry, materials design, efficient catalysts Quantum computers as "programmable models of nature" for new physics discoveries They also tackle big questions: Are quantum machines or nature's simulators? Can quantum-AI uncover new elements or…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Enrique Solano (CEO of Kipu Quantum) about the future of quantum computing, quantum AI, and artificial intelligence — and why waiting for a universal, fault-tolerant quantum computer may be the biggest mistake in the industry. Solano challenges the dominant narrative around quantum technology. Universal quantum computers are not imminent, logical qubits are not yet scalable, and noisy quantum hardware is not useless — it’s an opportunity. At the center of the conversation is his concept of quantum intelligence: hybrid classical-quantum systems that combine quantum computing and AI to unlock reasoning beyond both human cognition and classical supercomputers. A sharp and contrarian discussion about quantum advantage, quantum-enhanced machine learning, AI hallucinations, and whether intelligence truly requires consciousness. Episode breakdown: 00:00 Introduction 01:48 Unconventional Thinking 04:30 The Role of Creativity in the Age of AI…

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Carlos Moreira, founder and CEO of WISeKey and SEALSQ, one of the world’s leading voices on digital trust, cybersecurity, quantum security, and sovereign technology. Recorded around the World Economic Forum in Davos, the conversation explores why trust has become critical infrastructure in the quantum age. Moreira reflects on his three-decade journey from early work with the United Nations and the origins of the web in Geneva to building a global trust ecosystem spanning digital identity, post-quantum cryptography, semiconductors, satellites, and quantum computing. He explains why trust in the quantum era cannot be treated as a feature layered on top of technology, but must be embedded at the architectural level — comparable to energy grids or financial systems. Together, they discuss quantum security, the coming “Q-Day”, the geopolitical implications of technology sovereignty, and why Europe must learn to scale global technology champions. The conversation also…

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with John Martinis, Nobel Prize–winning physicist (Nobel Prize in Physics, 2025) and one of the key architects of modern quantum computing, recorded at the World Economic Forum in Davos Martinis reflects on his journey from early superconducting qubit experiments to the landmark quantum supremacy breakthrough at Google, and explains why building a scalable quantum computer is ultimately a systems-engineering challenge where manufacturability matters as much as physics. He shares his perspective on how quantum computing will complement classical computing and AI, why meaningful economic impact will take time, and why progress is likely to be slower—but ultimately deeper—than today’s hype suggests. A focused and personal conversation with one of the scientists who helped turn quantum computing from theory into reality. Episode breakdown: 00:00 Introduction 00:59 Quantum Supremacy 03:57 Engineer vs. Physicist 07:17 The Feynman Moment 11:16 Scaling Quantum Computing 20:42…

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Loïc Henriet, CEO of Pasqal, about quantum computing as it moves from theory into reality. They discuss how quantum technology is leaving the lab, why neutral-atom processors are emerging as a scalable path, and how quantum will complement classical computing and AI rather than replace them. The conversation includes a clear 2026 outlook, explores Europe’s role in technological sovereignty, and opens a philosophical discussion on emergence, responsibility, and what quantum technology could mean for human agency in a world shaped by supercomputing. A focused conversation on quantum advantage, leadership, and what it truly means for breakthrough science to become real. Episode breakdown: 00:00 Introduction 02:11 From Curiosity to Capability 08:01 Between Promise and Reality 13:18 From Lab to Market 18:25 Quantum as a Strategic Asset 25:02 Quantum Meets AI 35:35 Measuring Progress 43:06 Technology, Responsibility and Society 47:31 A Reflective View on Quantum’s Future…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Andrew Cheung, Founder and CEO of 01 Quantum, about Q-Day, quantum computing, and the security risks already emerging today. They discuss why data can be stolen now and decrypted later, why the transition to quantum-safe security is more complex than most expect, and why execution speed matters more than technological hype. A conversation about trust, leadership, and security in a post-quantum world. Here’s the breakdown of the episode: 00:00 Introduction 01:52 Quantum Reality Check 09:26 Understanding the Quantum Risk 23:01 The Quantum Security Dilemma 32:44 The Global Quantum Race 37:09 Making Quantum Security Real 44:13 What Comes Next About Andrew Cheung https://www.linkedin.com/in/acheungquantum/?originalSubdomain=ca Anders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap…

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Johan Strömqvist – Founder & CEO of Single Technologies and a pioneer of 3-D DNA sequencing.Johan shares how his background in physics, photonics, and biotechnology led to the development of the world’s fastest 3-D imaging system and a radically new way to read the code of life. Together, Anders and Johan explore how biology is becoming programmable and why 3-D sequencing could transform what’s possible in life sciences. They discuss how AI and future quantum technologies may accelerate breakthroughs in genomics, synthetic biology, and regenerative medicine — from organs-on-demand to new ways of understanding the human brain. They also reflect on global competition in deep tech, Sweden’s role as an innovation hub, and the ethical implications of a world where life itself becomes writable code. Here’s the breakdown of the episode: 00:00 Introduction 01:55 From Engineering to Biotech 06:51 The Rise of 3D Sequencing 12:19 Making Life Visible 19:45 The Economics of…

Anders Indset sits down with Steve Suarez – Founder & CEO of HorizonX, global quantum strategist, and former Global Head of Innovation at HSBC. Steve explains how he fell in love with quantum technologies, why he created the Quantum Index, and what the data reveals about the industries and countries leading the global quantum race. Together, Anders and Steve explore the future of quantum computing, the risks of hype, and why executive education is crucial for navigating the next wave of technological change. They also discuss the growing competition between Europe, the U.S., and the Middle East, and why the Gulf region is rapidly becoming a major deep-tech hub. They reflect on the wider impact of emerging technologies, from new materials to personalized medicine, and why the coming decade may reshape how we think about innovation, value creation, and the role of humans in a rapidly accelerating world. Here’s the breakdown of the episode: 00:00 Introduction 01:50 Foundations of the Quantum Era 11:42…

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Liz Parrish – CEO of BioViva, pioneering advocate for gene therapies, and likely the world’s most gene-modified person. Drawing from her personal journey – from her son’s type 1 diabetes diagnosis to her own decision to undergo multiple gene therapies – Liz shares how she became one of the most influential voices in longevity and regenerative medicine. Together, they explore why aging may become optional, how regulation is slowing down life-saving innovation, and how gene therapy could progress from a frontier technology to a universal tool for human health. These are the topics Liz and Anders are talking about: 00:00 Introduction 01:49 The Journey into Gene Therapy 13:14 Innovation Through Breaking Boundaries 21:41 The Biology of Tomorrow 36:24 Where Technology Meets Life 46:16 The Coming Human Future 01:01:37 Consciousness, Experience, and the Human Condition About Liz Parrish https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizlparrish/ About Anders Indset Anders Indset is a leading…

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Alex Challans, CEO and co-founder of Resonance, the company behind The Quantum Insider — the leading global platform for intelligence and media in quantum technology. Alex reflects on the early days of building The Quantum Insider and how Resonance has grown into a major deep-tech intelligence powerhouse. He shares why the quantum industry has moved from niche academic circles into a rapidly expanding global ecosystem powered by scientists, founders, investors, and governments. Together, they explore the rise of the quantum economy, the convergence of quantum, AI, and space technologies, and how capital, timing, and technological breakthroughs are reshaping industries far beyond computing. Alex also gives a behind-the-scenes look at Our Quantum Future, Resonance’s new documentary highlighting where the next decade of quantum innovation may take us. These are the topics Alex and Anders are talking about: (00:00) Introduction (01:48) Entering the Quantum Era (10:45)…

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Ben Bloom, co-founder and CEO of Atom Computing – one of the pioneers of neutral-atom quantum computers. From optical control and logical qubits to the next industrial revolution in materials science, Bloom shares how his team is scaling systems from thousands to tens of thousands of qubits and why this moment might mark the beginning of a new computational era. These are the topics Ben and Anders are talking about: (00:00) Introduction (01:59) The Quantum Capital Debate (04:13) Neutral Atoms in Quantum Computing (06:00) Engineering Challenges and Scaling (09:57) The Role of Classical Control (11:40) Exotic Approaches and Future of Quantum (15:25) The Journey of a Founder (21:57) The Future of Quantum and AI Collaboration (27:31) Societal Implications of Quantum Computing (32:35) Scepticism and Optimism in AGI Development (38:48) Industrial Use Cases and Implications (42:13) Government's Role in Quantum Computing and Regulation (45:02) Quantum vs. AI (50:58) The…

How are we building the quantum future responsibly? Anders Indset speaks with Nick Farina, co-founder and CEO of EeroQ, a company taking one of the most unconventional paths in the race for scalable quantum systems: trapped electrons on liquid helium. They explore how quantum progress unfolds – not in one defining moment, but through interlinked advances that amplify each other. From the physics of floating electrons to the philosophy of progress, this episode dives deep into how we can balance ambition and awareness as science, markets, and ethics converge to shape our shared future. More about Nick Farina https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickfarina/ https://eeroq.com https://x.com/nick_farina About Anders Indset Anders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity. NEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643…

A Manufacturing Story with Prineha Narang How is quantum science becoming something we can build? In this episode, Anders Indset talks with Prineha Narang, Professor at UCLA and Visiting Professor at the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen. She is a pioneering scientist, engineer, and entrepreneur shaping the future of quantum technologies. Together, they explore how quantum science moves from the lab into real-world impact – transforming manufacturing, expanding the frontiers of computation, and reshaping our idea of progress. From quantum materials and AI integration to the rise of a quantum economy that creates new industries, jobs, and influences how we live and transform as a society, this conversation explores the making of a new scientific and industrial age. More about Prineha Narang https://www.linkedin.com/in/prineha/ https://naranglab.ucla.edu/ About Anders Indset Anders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence…

What if reality itself is made of information? In this mind-expanding episode, Anders Indset speaks with Vlatko Vedral, Professor of Quantum Information Science at Oxford University — one of the world’s leading thinkers on quantum physics, information, and consciousness. Together, they explore how quantum mechanics, information, and mind may be part of one continuous reality — and why this understanding could transform not only science — but our very idea of what it means to be human. In This Episode • Why quantum mechanics may be the universal theory of everything • The five “portals” redefining our view of time, gravity, life, and consciousness • Schrödinger’s real vision behind the “many worlds” concept • How quantum information could explain life, thought, and reality itself A profound and accessible dialogue where science meets philosophy — and where the future of understanding begins. About Vlatko Vedral LinkedIn vlatkovedral.com Portals to a New Reality: Five Pathways to the Future of Physics…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset is joined by Chris Ballance — co-founder and CEO of Oxford Ionics, a pioneer in trapped-ion quantum computing and now part of IonQ. Chris is a physicist turned entrepreneur whose journey from Oxford’s quantum labs to leading one of the world’s most advanced quantum hardware teams reflects a rare blend of scientific precision and pragmatic vision. Their conversation explores the intersection of quantum physics, technology, business, and philosophy — from the limits of error correction to the coming fusion of AI, consciousness, and computation. At the heart of the dialogue is Chris’s conviction: that progress depends on better engineering, not blind faith in algorithms — and that humanity’s greatest strength lies in its capacity to adapt and create meaning through science and technology. Together, they discuss: Why error correction isn’t magic — and why quantum computing starts with better qubits How trapped-ion systems could outperform other…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Matthew Kinsella — CEO of Infleqtion, one of the world’s leading quantum technology companies pioneering neutral-atom platforms across computing, sensing, and networking. Before stepping in as CEO, Matthew spent nearly two decades as a deep-tech investor with Maverick Capital and was Infleqtion’s first institutional investor in 2018. Now, he’s guiding the company through its next major inflection point — scaling quantum technologies, going public, and shaping the global race toward quantum advantage. Anders and Matthew’s conversation bridges business, science, and philosophy — exploring how quantum computing is transforming markets, national security, and our understanding of reality itself.Together, they explore: From Investor to Operator – Why Matthew left venture capital to lead Infleqtion and how neutral-atom technology became a flexible, multi-market platform Quantum Advantage and Logical Qubits – How the shift from if to when…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Professor Marius Grundmann—co-founder & co-CEO of SaxonQ, world-leading semiconductor physicist (h-index ~95), and author of the standard textbook The Physics of Semiconductors. Grundmann and SaxonQ are pioneering nitrogen-vacancy (NV) centres in diamond to build mobile, room-temperature quantum computers—a bold challenge to today’s cryogenic approaches.Anders and Marius dive straight into the hard questions: Why have NV centres been pigeonholed into sensing and communication, and what’s changed to make computing not only possible, but scalable? From materials science to machine architecture, this is a rare, deeply technical conversation that also grapples with the societal stakes of quantum.Together, they explore: From Defect to Qubit – How NV⁻ centres in diamond use electron and nuclear spins, and why room-temperature operation matters. The Breakthrough: Reproducibly fabricating coupled NV pairs at nanometre precision—the crucial…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Dr. Florian Neukart—Chief Product Officer and Management Board Member at Terra Quantum, Professor at Leiden University, and co-author of Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox – Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI. Florian is one of today’s leading voices in quantum computing and AI, and the mind behind the groundbreaking Quantum Memory Matrix theory, which suggests the universe itself holds a memory.Anders and Florian's conversation spans the cutting edge of science, technology, and philosophy—asking not just how quantum computing will change our world, but how reality itself might be structured.Together, they explore: The Quantum Memory Matrix – How uniting quantum information and gravity could solve mysteries like dark matter and the black hole information paradox The Race to Scale Quantum Computing – Insights on superconducting systems, error correction breakthroughs, and the companies pushing the…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset explores the future of quantum with Justin Ging, Chief Product Officer at Atom Computing. With over two decades of experience in product, marketing, and sales Justin is one of the foremost voices on how to commercialize quantum computing and turn breakthrough science into real markets. Their conversation explores the business, strategy, and philosophy behind building a quantum economy, asking not just how quantum computers will scale, but how they will be adopted, sold, and experienced in the real world. Together, they dive into: From Physical to Logical Qubits – Why the transition to the logical qubit era marks a defining milestone for the entire industry, and what Atom Computing’s roadmap looks like toward 100 and then 1,000 logical qubits. The Quantum Marketplace – How the commercialization of quantum is evolving: from research tools for scientists to sovereign systems that anchor national ecosystems, and eventually cloud-scale services.…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset is joined by William Hurley – better known as whurley – a pioneering tech entrepreneur, founder and CEO of Strangeworks, and co-author of the bestselling book “Quantum Computing for Babies”.Their conversation dives deep into the philosophical, technological, and societal dimensions of quantum computing and AI – ranging from the need for open ecosystems and standardization to the existential implications of living in a world shaped by intelligent machines.At the heart of the dialogue is whurley’s bold vision: to empower a billion minds to solve the world’s greatest challenges through science and technology.Together, they further discuss: Why the quantum future is platform-agnostic, entangled and already here How AI and quantum computing are symbiotic tools in the next scientific revolution What it takes to build an ecosystem, not just hardware – and why “middleware is the hard part” Why standardization is essential for trust, credibility, and…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Jan Goetz — co-founder and co-CEO of IQM Quantum Computers. With IQM’s recent leap to unicorn status, Europe has gained a new heavyweight in the quantum race. What started as a university spin-off is now a global champion setting the pace for Europe’s quantum ambitions. Their conversation goes far beyond the lab, exploring what it really takes to build “the impossible machine” — a commercial quantum computer — and what this means for business, science, and society. Together, they dive into: From Lab to Market – How IQM transformed from a research spin-off into Europe’s largest quantum computing company, and why a product mindset is key for deep tech The Case for Hardware – Why IQM chose to build full-stack, on-premise quantum computers rather than focus only on cloud access, and how superconducting qubits provide a commercial edge Co-Design & Applications – Insights into IQM’s “co-design” approach, aligning chips, error correction,…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Théau Peronnin, co-founder and CEO of Alice & Bob — a French quantum startup pioneering fault-tolerant quantum computing through its unique “cat qubit” design.A physicist by training and vocation, Théau shares his journey from academia to entrepreneurship and reflects on what it takes to lead a deep-tech company through one of the most high-stakes races in modern science: building a universal quantum computer.Together, they explore: How embedding error correction directly into qubits could drastically reduce the hardware requirements for fault tolerance Why quantum computing isn’t about accelerating existing algorithms but enabling entirely new kinds of questions What the “Sputnik moment” of quantum might look like — and why we're not quite there yet How classical control electronics, not quantum components, could be the true bottleneck at scale Why Europe needs visionary drive, not bureaucracy, to take the lead in quantum innovation…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with José Ignacio Latorre, Director of the Centre for Quantum Technologies in Singapore. A leading physicist and global voice in quantum ethics and AI, José is shaping national strategy while advocating for a more inclusive, human-centered quantum future.Their conversation centers on a powerful and forward-looking idea: What if we built a Quantum Temple — not just a technological infrastructure, but a global, philosophical project grounded in openness, beauty, and generosity?Together, they explore: How Singapore is designing a fully integrated national quantum strategy — and what Europe and the U.S. can learn from it Why scalable quantum computing is still a scientific challenge —and how the strengths and limitations of different hardware platforms are coming into focus Why universities and public labs remain essential for breakthroughs — despite corporate PR dominance What José’s decades of work on machine ethics can teach us about the…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Dr. Krysta Svore, Microsoft Azure Quantum’s Technical Fellow and Vice President of Advanced Quantum Development. Krysta is one of the leading forces behind Microsoft’s full-stack quantum ecosystem—and a visionary voice on the future of scalable, fault-tolerant quantum computing. Their conversation centers on a critical and forward-looking question: What does it really mean to be quantum ready? From enterprise strategy to global infrastructure, Krysta explains why preparing for quantum is an urgent and strategic priority for organizations worldwide. Together, they explore: Post-Quantum Cryptography: How Microsoft is safeguarding trust and data integrity in the age of emerging quantum threats From Qubits to Systems: The breakthroughs in hardware, error correction, and logical qubit design that are making quantum reliability a reality The Ethics of Scale: Why quantum innovation must be guided by responsible computing, human-centered…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Simone Severini, a Distinguished Engineer at Google and Professor of Physics of Information at University College London. Their wide-ranging conversation explores the philosophical, scientific, and technical dimensions of quantum computing – from its origins in fundamental physics to the engineering hurdles of building fault-tolerant machines. At the time of the recording, Simone was still with Amazon Web Services, where he led the quantum technologies division and launched research centers with Caltech and Harvard. Together, they explore: Why quantum computers are better understood as instruments of discovery than tools for acceleration What it takes to build fault-tolerant machines — from error correction to cat qubits How computation and physics co-evolve, and what that tells us about black holes, entropy, and information Why quantum innovation demands patient capital, deep partnerships, and long-termism Whether you're a scientist,…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Rebecca Krauthamer, CEO and co-founder of QuSecure – a pioneering force in post-quantum cybersecurity. Their conversation spans the emerging risks and deep opportunities at the intersection of quantum tech, digital security, and human agency.Together, they explore: The rapid rise of the PQC (Post-Quantum Cryptography) market What it really means to frame cybersecurity as a mission for humanity How Rebecca’s long-term vision could reshape digital trust and infrastructure What it takes to lead as a business thinker in times of exponential change Whether you’re a cybersecurity strategist, quantum enthusiast, or tech-forward humanist, this is an essential listen on how to build trust in tomorrow’s digital world. Links & ResourcesAbout Rebecca Krauthamer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rkrauthamer/ https://www.qusecure.com/About The Quantum Economy PodcastA series of recordings around the research of the forthcoming second edition of “The…

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with John Levy, CEO and co-founder of SEEQC – a pioneer in superconducting quantum chip design. Their conversation explores the frontiers of computing, capitalism, and consciousness in a world shaped by quantum technology. Together, they explore: The scalability of superconducting quantum chips Why the quantum ecosystem is not a winner-take-all market The critical role of quantum error correction The emergence of "quantum natives" and what this means for human evolution Episode breakdown: 00:00 Introduction to John Levy and SEEQC 01:08 Current progress in quantum commercialization 05:27 Investment strategies and biotech valuation models 15:00 SEEQC's origins and energy efficiency mission 21:40 Technical hurdles in digital quantum control 28:51 Integration with classical GPU and CPU architectures 30:51 Potential use cases and historical analogies 35:09 The global war for quantum talent 42:25 Philosophical reflections on reality and quantum…